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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 14:30:21 GMT
Hi guys thanks in advance for helping. As i said in my introductory post im still trying to get a feel for how characters should be here. So any ideas and feedback is greatly appreciated.
Currently i have questions for snoe regarding a power set and permission to bring in an outsider character to the world of freak. Im thinking an otherworld character from a world where super powers aint the norm would be fun in freaks. Im way way open to edit her to make her fit in universe. Im hoping its allowed. Anyway ima post a draft new character here shortly with a powerset that I think is acceptable.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 14:59:56 GMT
Name: Artemisia Leroux Moniker: Zephyr Age: 28 Gender: Female Birthplace: France Height: 5'8" Weight: 60kg Hair: Platinum Blonde Eyes: Emerald Green Scars/handicaps: Blind left eye Distinguishing features:ei) glasses, facial hair, piercings ect... None Dress: Hoodies and loose pants Preferred color: sky blue Darwin status: (Swig or Freak or Human see glossary for definition) Freak Power Tier: One Two or Three (see glossary) Tier 3 Power Type: Elemental Core ability: Manipulation of Air Molecules Powered Skills: Manipulates air molecules to create and control wind and the athmosphere, flight and enhanced speed, wind armor, wind blasts and creation of air vortex' aka tornadoes, air bubbles for exploring underwater, manipulating the elemental composition of the air in a specific area(ex increase oxygen to become more explosive or increase carbon dioxide to choke people) Skills: multi lingual (speaks french, english and latin), marksmanship (proficiency with guns mst notably rifles), research skills Training: medical training, competitive shooting Education: medical degree general practicioner Relationship status: single Job: doctor Goal: help as many people in trouble Hardship: coming to terms that she cannot help everyone Greatest Fear: disfigurement Strongest Trait: would never give up Weakest Trait: self image Idioms: what can I help you with? Self image: ugly both in and out, must do better to improve. Reputation: foolish doctor Sense of humor: bad puns
Well here's my first try. Hoping for comments and suggestions.
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 15:44:48 GMT
From the power description, I would place their tier into two. There's usually factions characters choose (Kreagan's Kult, Carnegan Family, unaffiliated etc.)
Snoe has the full details about each faction
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 15:56:23 GMT
Hmmm? So someone like that is still a tier 2? She can literally pull out someone's breath if need be, but ok? How bout on other areas?
Factions? Do they need to have one in the character sheet? Can they not be affiliated to anyone? I was thinking faction would naturally come out during rps with them like through interactions from these group theyl find they agree with it and join.
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 16:10:32 GMT
I have a tier two character who can create literally anything from psionics. Wings, shields, weapons, armour, even execute somebody by forming a psionic shard into their brain. It's because your character has power but can also make maintain some control over it.
Oh you can have no faction at all. I have another who is unaffiliated with anybody and does things their way
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 16:22:50 GMT
Sorry can you explain that to me? Why a psychic that can create psionic energy blades inside peoples head considered tier 2? Then what exactly makes tier 3? I had the understanding that it is based on the scale of power? Or does it have to be both powerful and uncontrollable? So if you have a powerset that is relatively really powerful but you have control over it that would be tier 2? Lets say example manipulation of the electromagnetic forces. If you have active control of it its tier 2, if not its tier 3?
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 16:38:59 GMT
welcometoalantus.freeforums.net/thread/5/glossaryRead this to get an understanding of power tiers. In basic terms, Tier 2 are versatile. They can do so much with their powers due to a balance of control and power and often come up with new ways to use it. Tier 3 are dangerously powerful but cannot be switched off. For example Conduit. Her abilities can cause city wide destruction, but she does not have control over what she can do with it. With what she absorbs, the abilities turn on automatically. Pulse vision cannot be turned off and her whole body is lethal in close proximity. When she discharges some of that energy into an electrical attack, it's wild and unstable. She cannot direct it nor stop it once it has happened. It's like a raw form of absolute power. Tier one is fine control. Tier two is versatility. Tier three is raw and unbridled power.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 16:41:52 GMT
Im really confused to what constitutes a tier 2 and 3. Ive looke over lollipops and molleculos profiles who seem to share similar elemental powers with my attempt at a character above. Lollipop is tier 1 and i can understand why. Her power is very specific and has limited applications. Moleculo is tier 3, his power seems to be all about control of. Air friction, more specifically oxygen vibration. (Dunno why he is classed as energy and not elemental i must be missing something) on the otherhand, artemisia controls air molecules, every atom in the air and can even change elemental composition of the air. She can effectively neutralize moleculo's powers by removing oxygen or stopping the movement of air molecules, and she's tier 2?
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 16:44:51 GMT
It's best to ask Snoe for a final say, since she would know how to class each power. Mine is just an opinion of how I see it
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 16:50:28 GMT
I dont mean to argue btw. Im just confused on the tiering. Ive actually read and re read the post in it a couple of times and what i get off it and with what you said is that its all about control. So tier 1 is fine control, 2 is control and power, while 3 is lack of control. The extent of power is irrelevant as long as control is present or managebale it will be tier 2. So tier 3 characters arent necessarilly the strongest ones but some tier 2s would probably fit the bill?
Well at least thats how i get it.
I actually want to make 3 characters each classed in the different tiers.
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 17:02:13 GMT
Best way to describe it as your character can control the winds and oxygen right? But she also has enough control to get creative in how to use it in different ways. Which is usually what a tier two can do.
Lenton (the psionic creator) can get very creative because she can form a lot of things from it from weapons to utility. She controls what to create from the psionics.
Tier two can be quite powerful in itself because of the balance. Tier Three's are almost god-like level powers. Kreagan, First, Silic etc. All three have power levels that go to the extreme, but they're usually limited in what they can do with that power.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 17:12:20 GMT
Isnt silic tier 2?
No, best way to describe her powers is that she can control all the atoms in the air, not just create winds or control oxygen. She may even remove or recombine atoms to change the elemental compoaition of the air. Extreme case of the application of her power would be to start nuclear fission of the elements in the air of a given area. Albeit this should be out of her reach, but im just clearing what i meant with her powers.
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Post by DodoDestroyer on Jul 6, 2018 17:20:10 GMT
So it's less of the manipulation of air molecules, and more of atomic manipulation? Now that sounds like a tier three.
I'm unsure which tier Silic is now. It's been awhile since I looked at the Canon character sheets...
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 17:26:00 GMT
Atomic manipulation of particles in the air/athmosphere to be precise. If its in water or in the ground, she canct manipulate those. I guess the problem this try was my wording and description of the powerset then. Thanks we finally figured that out. XO Also silic is indeed tier 2
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Post by nyaa on Jul 6, 2018 17:34:30 GMT
Ok here's an edited version of the first character. Hope this is better now.
Name: Artemisia Leroux Moniker: Zephyr Age: 28 Gender: Female Birthplace: France Height: 5'8" Weight: 60kg Hair: Platinum Blonde Eyes: Emerald Green Scars/handicaps: Blind left eye. Slight ADHD making tasks that needs concentration difficult. Distinguishing features:ei) glasses, facial hair, piercings ect... None Dress: Hoodies and loose pants Preferred color: sky blue Darwin status: (Swig or Freak or Human see glossary for definition) Freak Power Tier: Tier 3 Power Type: Elemental Core ability: Manipulation of atoms/molecules in the athmosphere Powered Skills: Manipulates atoms/molecules to create and control wind and the athmosphere, flight and enhanced speed, wind armor, wind blasts and creation of air vortex aka tornadoes, air bubbles for exploring underwater, manipulating the elemental composition of the air in a specific area(ex increase oxygen to become more explosive or increase carbon dioxide to choke people), small nuclear explosions by forcing elemental atoms in the air to undergo fission. (All listed skills after exploring underwater is nigh impossible for her because of the amount of control needed but theres a chance of success, the act of even trying to pull this off leaves her unconcious for days) Skills: multi lingual (speaks french, english and latin), marksmanship (proficiency with guns mst notably rifles), research skills Training: medical training, competitive shooting Education: medical degree general practicioner Relationship status: single Job: doctor Goal: help as many people in trouble Hardship: coming to terms that she cannot help everyone Greatest Fear: disfigurement Strongest Trait: would never give up Weakest Trait: self image Idioms: what can I help you with? Self image: ugly both in and out, must do better to improve. Reputation: foolish doctor Sense of humor: bad puns
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 0:19:00 GMT
Draft for 2 other characters. Aim is to make a tier 2 and 1 character that wpuld fit in nicely. Any feedback as before is greatly appreciated.
Name: Clea Bell Moniker: Flaming Glass Age: 18 Gender: Female Birthplace: London Height: 5'6" Weight: 55kg Hair: ice blue Eyes: ember red Scars/handicaps: Congenital Analgesia (Insensitivity to pain due to increased endorphin production in the brain) Distinguishing features:designer eye glasses Dress: gothic lolita Preferred color: black Darwin status: Freak Power Tier: Tier 2 Power Type: Energy Core ability: increasing or decreasing the movements of atoms of things in contact with her body thus increasing or decreasing its heat energy thereby freezing ir setting it ablaze. Powered Skills: creating fireballs or icicles from the air around her, freezing or setting ablaze things she touches, creating ice armors and shields, fire and ice walls, fire vortex by setting the air on fire and controlling the air around it by enducing a cold draft, and her personal favorite a flaming ice sword, setting a persons breathe ablaze from inside their body by shobing her hand in their mouths. Skills: proficiency is close combat with different martial arts and melee weapons. Training: Assassination techniques using her abilities Education: highschool level Relationship status: single Job: freelance assassin Goal: earn enough money to have her congenital analgesia cured Hardship: guilt is catching up to her. Sees/halucinates the ghosts of her dead targets everynight Greatest Fear: weirdly its bugs. Strongest Trait: can continue on despite extensive damge because of inability to feel pain. Weakest Trait: willfully ignores body damge may it be due to combat or illness as she doesnt feel pain thinking its ok. Idioms: "oh this should hurt. Ouch!" *pretends to feel pain* Self image: sizzling and cool Reputation: expensive assassin but gets the job done cleanly Sense of humour: snarky and sarcastic
Name: Napoleon Da Silva Moniker: Strength Age: 40 Gender: Male Birthplace: France Height: variable (6'8" and up) Weight: variable (90kg to a ton) Hair: Silvery White Eyes: Silver Scars/handicaps: Anxiety Disorder Distinguishing features: scar in the right side of the face that cuts diagonally towards the left passing through the eye Dress: Tanktops and Cargo pants Preferred color: Brown and Khaki Darwin status: Swig Power Tier: Tier 1 Power Type: Body Core ability: increase or decrease muscle mass and bone density and size at will. Powered Skills: increased strenght and durability due to increased muscle mass size and bone density. Skills: strategic defensive planning, close and range combat proficiency, bilingual (french and english) fire arms mastery Training: military training and jungle and dessert survival Relationship status: married Job: body guard, ex soldier Goal: keeping his best friend's daughter safe Hardship: anxiety attacks regarding people around hee charge and how they would abuse her naivete Greatest Fear: heights Strongest Trait: fearless except for heights Weakest Trait: becomes a whimpering wreck in high places Idioms: "oh this should hurt. Ouch!" *pretends to feel pain* Self image: I Am Sperman Reputation: decorated soldier, war hero Sense of humour: none existent.
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 1:36:19 GMT
Alrighty!
First things first.
Biggest difference between tiers 2 and 3 (sry haven't updated it in a long time)
Essentially tier 3 is a power that is so heavily intertwined with the person that several things would be true: -they wouldn't beable to function without it (keeps them alive and healthy) - is controlled more by instinct than focus or practice so much so that one cannot turn it off or ever completely contain it. -is often (but not always) Very powerful. -is often accompanied by more pronounced physical abnormalities or disabilities (not always) -unlikw other tiers they do not tire or run out of power easily.
Tier 2 -most common - not as pinpoint accurate -they tire faster -need to focus on their power more directly -can use their ability in a myriad of ways separately or simultaneously.
NEXT Your characters First one : what are their upper limits? Air volume? Time limit? Weight limit? Velocity? Range?
Second character How does their body react to the extreme temperature differences? Most Elementals develop a resistance but since it's a vibration or rather kinetic based temperature shift how would they defend themselves from the ambient heat or cold? Or do they suffer frost bite and burns as a result of use?
Third character Size limit? At some point the body would collapse under its own weight given gravity? Also upper strength limits? And if they become too large what of metabolism and feeding and/or generating the proteins to generate such mass?
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 1:53:36 GMT
1st chaaracter:air volume is the volume for a cube kilometer. Time limit max is 10 mins sustaineed control, range is a kilometer. Velocity, wind velocities max she can create? F5 tornado speeds.
2nd char. Same as normal humans with very minor resistances. She gets frostbite and burns if she sets a part of her body ablaze or on ice for longer than 3 mins.
Size limit is up to 30ft tall. Upper strenght limit should be what a person scaled up to 30ft should be but since i suck at math im just gonna say 30 tons. If anyone would do the math though, il love you so much. Has to intake at least 50k calories a day
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 2:08:16 GMT
Well you've thought it out at least. I do luv that you passed You're people are powerful that's true but many on my canon characters are much nastier (I try not to use them often) 1st: high level tier 2 though I'd say the faster the wind the less time they can sustain it. Kinda like a runner going full tilt or dialing it back. 2nd: sounds good. Could use tech to balance out that weakness should she ever work for the big companies. 3rd: this is where it gets funky. At 30ft it's not just about scaling up to size it's also a matter of accommodating organic function and structure. To put it plainly he's to big to breath his own weight would suffocate him his heart would tear under the weight of his own blood ECT... BUT if his density were fortified sure he could survive but then the mass to make him structurally sound would be astronomical and he'd sink through what he stood on and be almost impossible to move due to the excess weight. I'd scale him back a little think of the biggest animals on land and how they manage.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 2:23:38 GMT
15 ft then? Im glad clea was the best of the 3 since shes really the one i thought about so much.
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 2:26:46 GMT
He'd be slow but hits like an elephant on two legs might be stockier just to support himself. But biologies a bitch lol
You're welcome.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 2:28:16 GMT
Will be remaking their profiles now then. Anyway can i still post on the school rp?
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 2:30:34 GMT
Can but it hasn't been active for quite some time.
Feel free to join or create. Just communicate with the others I'm sure you'll find someone or somewhere to play.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 2:33:06 GMT
Hopefully. Thanks on the feedbacks.
Also im glad you cleared up the tiering idsue. So its not necessarilly tied to the gravitas of the power. Anyway lets say i wanna make artemisia a tier 3, what should i change?
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 2:45:09 GMT
No problem.
What I would do is tie her power to her state of mind. Calm allowing for smaller uses of power while raging causes storm winds despite her attempts to control it. Even something as simple as pushing a door or preventing a fall could activate it. Essentially by increasing output she'd have to be very careful in her everyday life. That's one of those tier 3 things. If not careful people could die.
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Post by nyaa on Jul 7, 2018 3:01:02 GMT
It really is a matter of control huh. If i make her like that she would then lose the capacity to actually do the higher ends of her power as stated in her current profile. Hmm... Sounds nice. Thanks thanks. But then she wouldnt be able to maintain the personality ive given her i think... What would you suggest? Apply the changes to make her tier 3 or keep the tier 2 rating?
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Post by Snoe on Jul 7, 2018 17:36:25 GMT
Well that's more or less up to how you want to pkaybthe character and the story you want to tell.
Most of the time having a powerful character isn't nearly as fun as a flawed one.
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